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		<title>German press falls for name hoax</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Craig Silverman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A story from TheLocal.de: An article poking fun at the lengthy name of new Economy Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg turned out to be a joke on some of the biggest names in the German media after it was revealed they had been tricked by a Wikipedia prankster. On Sunday February 8, the evening before Guttenberg [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A <a href="http://www.thelocal.de/society/20090212-17397.html">story</a> from TheLocal.de:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>An article poking fun at the lengthy name of new Economy Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg turned out to be a joke on some of the biggest names in the German media after it was revealed they had been tricked by a Wikipedia prankster.<br />
On Sunday February 8, the evening before Guttenberg was officially named to replace the outgoing Michael Glos, someone decided to add the name â€œWilhelmâ€ to his already prolix name on his Wikipedia entry: </em><em>Karl-Theodor Maria Nikolaus Johann Jakob Philipp Franz Joseph Sylvester Freiherr von und zu Guttenberg. â€œFreiherr,â€ for the record, is the title of Baron.<br />
â€œI asked myself if anyone would notice if I simply added one more entry to the long list of names,â€ the anonymous Wikipedia poster wrote in a guest commentary for the media critique site bildblog.de on Tuesday. â€œIt turns out that no one noticed, and scores of online media, newspapers and television stations used my invention without verifying it.â€<br />
Mass-circulation daily </em><em>Bild ran the incorrect name and photo above the front-page headline, â€œDo we have to remember <strong>this</strong> name?â€ on Monday, poking fun at his aristocratic roots. Meanwhile the mistake ran in major publications across the country, including Germanyâ€™s leading news site </em><em>Spiegel Online, which reported that journalists took pleasure in asking Guttenberg to recite his name.<br />
Bloggers and media critics have triumphed at the coup, calling a â€œdeclaration of bankruptcyâ€ for journalistic ethics.<br />
Along with other papers across the country, both </em><em>Bild and </em><em>Spiegel Online published corrections, but their tone seemed less apologetic than irritated at having had their reliance on Wikipedia revealed. On Thursday </em><em>Bild wrote that the 37-year-old had been the â€œvictim of a falsificationâ€ that many media sources, â€œincluding </em><em>Bild, fell into.â€ But the correction included a final dig at the new minister by adding that instead of 11 names, he had â€œâ€˜justâ€™ tenâ€ names.<br />
Meanwhile </em><em>Spiegel Online corrected its mistake as soon as it was discovered, attributing it to â€œa manipulation of the internet encyclopaedia Wikipedia and insufficient research by </em><em>Spiegel Online.â€ But in another article about the incident published on Thursday, it chalked up the embarrassing gaffe to â€œtime pressure that was great.â€ &#8230;<br />
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<p>Thanks, Steve!<em><br />
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		<title>Times of London corrects article about Wikipedia errors</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Craig Silverman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This a bit meta. Giles Hattersley wrote an article for the Sunday Times (London) that reported Wikipedia&#8217;s Jimmy Wales would soon make &#8220;a controversial proposal to ensure that changes to the most popular wiki-pages are vetted before they go live.&#8221; The goal of the proposal was to help reduce factual errors and vandalism on the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-6986" title="timesuk" src="http://www.regrettheerror.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/timesuk-150x17.gif" alt="timesuk" width="150" height="17" />This a bit meta.<br />
Giles Hattersley wrote an <a href="http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article5682896.ece">article</a> for the Sunday Times (London) that reported Wikipedia&#8217;s Jimmy Wales would soon make &#8220;a controversial proposal to ensure that changes to the most popular wiki-pages are vetted before they go live.&#8221; The goal of the proposal was to help reduce factual errors and vandalism on the site. Soon after the story was published, Hattersley came under fire for making an error of his own. From a <a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/shane_richmond/blog/2009/02/08/giles_hattersleys_disappearing_wikipedia_entry">blog post</a> by the Daily Telegraph&#8217;s Shane Richmond:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Giles Hattersley, <a title="Link to Sunday Times" href="http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article5682896.ece" target="_blank">writing in today&#8217;s Times</a>, bemoans the inaccuracy of Wikipedia. Regular readers of this blog will know that <a title="Link to previous post" href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/shane_richmond/blog/2009/01/27/wikipedias_openness_is_its_strength" target="_blank">I disagree completely</a> but that&#8217;s not why I&#8217;m writing.</em><br />
<em>Giles writes: &#8220;My entry features at least two errors, one libellous (unless my mother has been keeping a dark secret, I am not Roy Hattersley&#8217;s son).&#8221;</em><br />
<em>Yet I can&#8217;t find an entry for Giles Hattersley in Wikipedia. And, <a title="Link to Twitter" href="http://twitter.com/currybet/status/1188604954" target="_blank">as Martin Belam points out</a>, it doesn&#8217;t look like there has ever been one.</em><br />
<em>Journalists should always strive for accuracy and such an error in an article about inaccuracy looks very silly. I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a perfectly reasonable explanation.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Hattersley later <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Giles_Hattersley#A_message_from_Giles_Hattersley">posted an explanation</a> on, of all places, Wikipedia:</p>
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<dd><em>As to this thing about a Wikipedia entry &#8211; as far as I know, I&#8217;ve never had one. I think the line must have been tweaked at some stage (not by me) from talking about mentions of my name on the site to an actual entry. The mistake pointed out in the piece, was pointed out to me a year or two ago in some corresponding page where my name cropped up &#8211; either Roy Hattersley&#8217;s entry, or a third party&#8217;s page. I&#8217;m glad to hear it no longer exists!</em></dd>
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<p>Okay, so perhaps it was an editing error. But also note that Hattersley doesn&#8217;t seem to know when and where he came upon the incorrect Wikipedia reference to himself. Based on the above, it was pointed out to him on &#8220;some corresponding page&#8221; by somebody at some point over the last two years. And now it no longer exists. Shouldn&#8217;t he have checked the reference before putting it in the story?</p>
<p>To close the circle, the Times has appended an Editor&#8217;s Note to the original article:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>This article has been updated to reflect Giles Hattersley&#8217;s original, which was changed during editing of the print edition of the Sunday Times. The sentence that read, &#8220;My entry features at least two errors, one libellous.&#8221; has now reverted to, &#8220;Mentions of me feature at least two errors (unless my mother has been keeping a dark secret, I am not Roy Hattersleyâ€™s son).&#8221; </em></p></blockquote>
<p>To summarize: some Wikipedia entries contain factual errors, as do some newspaper articles about Wikipedia&#8217;s inaccuracies.<em><br />
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